Comment by Lerc
8 months ago
It doesn't matter where the egg came from, just that it is an egg.
It could have luckily coalesced from gas (a Boltzmann egg), or perhaps even more radically, been laid by a duck.
you say
>They didn't train their system by self-play and they certainly didn't hire an army of low-paid workers to annotate moves for them.
So you are certainly aware that there are avenues to creating the data set. Given that, it is quite reasonable to say that search is unnecessary.
Neither of those has been shown to produce equivalent training data, no.
They should do one of those instead of using search before they claim it’s possible to not use search.
Or to borrow your analogy, you’ll need to show me a duck egg to prove you can make omelettes without chickens. Making an omelette from chicken eggs and claiming hypothetically some mystery other animal could have done it is nonsense.
>> So you are certainly aware that there are avenues to creating the data set. Given that, it is quite reasonable to say that search is unnecessary.
How is it unnecessary? They used none of those methods, so they had to use search. That is search being necessary, not the opposite.
Bold of you to assume that low-paid (and yet somehow grandmaster level chess playing) workers have never been exposed to search in any fashion.