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Comment by thimp

5 months ago

Haven't really noticed mine. Even after I've used it plugged into the studio display for a couple of days and go back to laptop mode, it's just such a non issue.

I live with it, the most annoying part being how big it is vertically. It has a weird psychological effect of screaming WASTED SPACE!!! at me, even though I rationally know that if the screen would start below would make for less space.

It's constantly bothering me to the point that I set a background with a black area at the top so that it blends with the menubar. I don't have a problem with the menubar icons though because I keep that tidy and minimal.

I punt on the issue through clamshell mode most of the time though.

To each their own, and TBH I have worse pet peeves.

  • The way I see it, we can think of the screen below the notch as actual display area and consider the area next to notch as bonus display dedicated for menubar. The bonus area goes dark when in fullscreen app. So, the app area is consistent in both modes.

    This way you don't have to feel like there's wasted space.

  • Is there a chance anything that us paid attention to grows in size.

    Would anyone be willing to go to an older laptop without it?

    Assuming not, what are the options? External displays?

    I find I usually look at the content on the screen not the webcam or the notch, but it could be different for others

No way lol. I bought a 15" macbook air and the notch is the one thing I hate on that laptop.

Like seriously, why is it so dang big?! I could understand a little cutout for the camera, but it's not like there's a faceid scanner array in there. It's just a dang camera. They could've stuck the ambient light sensor anywhere else.

  • IIRC, Apple used to have the ambient light sensor under the left speaker grille. If you happened to rest your hand there, it would make your screen suddenly start dimming.

    When using the laptop in a dark environment, it was also prone to a feedback loop where the screen dimming would result in less light hitting the sensor, leading to further screen dimming, or runaway brightening. Putting the sensor facing outward from the plane of the screen minimizes that feedback.

I've had my M2 Air for about a month now and this thread is the only reason I know that it's there. Never would have noticed.

  • How can you not notice that? Hate it or not it is incredibly easy to notice.

    • It's trivial to notice when you go looking for it. But if you keep your machine in dark mode and don't use apps with an overloaded menu bar, it's also very easy for the notch to entirely disappear from your awareness.

  • Same here. I actually had to look up whether my model had it since I'm not in front of it.

    I do use external screens a lot tho (in addition to the built in one).

I agree here. I thought it was dumb but the OS works around it really nicely; the only time it ever got in the way was with some non-native software