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Comment by onlyrealcuzzo

20 hours ago

> The Oxford University research found that moderate obesity, which is now common, reduces life expectancy by about 3 years, and that severe obesity, which is still uncommon, can shorten a person's life by 10 years. This 10 year loss is equal to the effects of lifelong smoking.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2009-03-18-moderate-obesity-takes-...

> According to the CDC, 9.4% of adults in the United States were severely obese between August 2021 and August 2023. This is higher for women (12.1%) than men (6.7%). The prevalence of severe obesity varies by age group, with the highest rates in adults aged 40–59 (12.0%)

Only 9.4% of people are severely obese. Moderately obese people have only a ~4% shorter life-span than healthy weight individuals - much of which can probably be attributed to other lifestyle issues besides simply being overweight.

This will move the needle, but I doubt as much as you think.

There's a lot more smokers than there are severely obese people.

>There's a lot more smokers than there are severely obese people.

Huh, I was going to argue this, but you're right (in the US). 19.5% of the population smokes, so there's about twice as many smokers as severely obese people.

I was sure it had dropped to 5-10%. I guess I'm in a bubble (of fresh air).

  • Kind of a tangent but I think a big part of the explanation for declining life expectancy is hiding here in plain sight.

    Since everyone knows smoking is bad for a long time now, we’re going to eventually need to categorize stuff like lung-cancer as a death of despair, similar to other deaths caused by alcoholism, opioids, or suicide.

    A lot of people who otherwise might quit smoking are probably looking at impossible dreams of home ownership or retirement, and thinking consciously or unconsciously that there is more dignity in a death at 50-60ish than one at 80ish when you’re unemployable and the thin promises of social safety nets have fallen through.

    Smoking (or other high risk activities) might be a dirty habit but it’s still more socially acceptable than suicide.

    • That's a bleak view. I doubt a substantial percentage of smokers are smoking specifically to die sooner.

      Most of them are smoking primarily because they're addicted.

      A few of them actually like smoking.

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