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Comment by ben_w

16 hours ago

The problems are due to what aging involves and the lack of young people inverting the population pyramid; getting us to 200 at all means solving every age-related biological problem, while also meaning we have longer to start a family and have kids to stabilise that population pyramid.

Lol ok so imagine your dream scenario is everyone, magically and with equality, is able to live and reproduce to absurdly long time frames - that’s also a hellscape in so many easily imaginable ways. you’ll start to see jobs requiring 100+ years experience or with the right genetic modifications to make you insurable enough to invest a 60 year career into. Since this is all science fiction, we can imagine all sorts of things as we understand this is fiction. My only real point is this isn’t a utopian future. we can’t deal with the amount of humans we already have at the ages they live to. I don’t see what solving aging does to solve any of these problems.

  • > Since this is all science fiction

    Everything is, before it gets invented. 200 years ago, radio, cars, skyscrapers, anaesthesia, transplants, space travel, plastics, and bioprinting were all scifi. Aluminium was almost exactly 200 years ago.

    Voice-to-voice translation and cheap synthetic gem quality diamonds were too, even when I was a kid.

    I'm not saying any of this will be easy — from what I've heard, it's sufficiently hard that one would need to do a PhD in the subject just to really understand how hard and I've not done that — but you are made of atoms, and the atoms in your body can be rearranged into a younger form.

    That the only mechanism to do so today is called "cannibalism" is an (enormous and repugnant!) implementation detail, even though it's also an existence-proof of the possibility of such a re-arrangement.

    Do you know what's not science fiction? People are already experimenting with genetically modifying themselves, because of things as simple as "they don't enjoy lactose intolerance".

    > I don’t see what solving aging does to solve any of these problems.

    Then you don't understand the actual problems.

    Most of the costs we have today from an aging population are that old people are physically weak, get sick a lot, have many expensive complications, and 30 years ago they collectively didn't have enough kids for the next generation to be able to afford to look after them so well.

    When you write:

    > we can’t deal with the amount of humans we already have at the ages they live to

    That's because (1) it's their kids (us) doing the "dealing with", and they didn't have so many; and (2) our natural aging process is awful.

    Anti-aging's biggest promise is that it makes age-related degeneration much easier to manage.

    (And all that's assuming "you’ll start to see jobs requiring 100+ years experience" isn't obviated by AI).