Comment by s1artibartfast
8 hours ago
Second generation children of immigrants vastly outperform children of non-immigrants, when you compare them by family income.
There are some differences by a demographic, but by and large, The stereotype of the hard-working immigrant parents pushing their children harder to succeed is accurate.
I don't know if they work as hard as their parents, but they have higher social mobility and lifetime income then their native economic peers.
Besides that data-driven point, My personal take on the original question is that the children generally don't work as hard as the parents, but that is simply a regression towards the American mean.
That said, just like not all people are the same, not all immigrants are the same. It is a broad classification that by definition includes both doctors and human traffickers. It's pointless to talk about immigration policy without getting into the details
There’s a joke that basically goes the first generation are immigrants, the second generation are Americanized, and the third generation have opinions about immigrants.
>Second generation children of immigrants vastly outperform children of non-immigrants, when you compare them by family income.
Do they? Can you provide a citation to back up this assertion, in France?
They do in the US. I have no clue about France.
Here is a source:
Intergenerational Mobility of Immigrants in the United States over Two Centuries, Ran Abramitzky American Economic Review, vol. 111, no. 2, February 2021
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20191586
Here is a podcast with the study authors:
https://www.econtalk.org/ran-abramitzky-and-leah-boustan-on-...
My point is that immigration in the US is somewhat different from immigration in most other countries. The US does a much better job of assimilating people from other cultures. How much this can be blamed on the immigrants, geography, or the host countries is debatable though. But instead of doing the American thing and ignoring everything outside US borders, as Americans almost always do, I think it's important to look at how things work elsewhere and see if there's lessons to be learned there.
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> in France
Lol